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John Knight's avatar

Good article! Contrary to some of the current narrative surrounding Spurs, I think he’s walking into a pretty good situation.

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John_E's avatar

Possibly more important to Levy is turning 10-40 mil teenagers into 60-100 mil sellable assets.

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Roston King's avatar

If this players improve that much, they will have been great assets to our team. Doesn't mean they will definitely be sold, but that is part of what football clubs do to keep money coming in.

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Clumpus's avatar

I find it quite bizarre that you think (1) managers (and clubs??) can’t overperform their resources and (2) that firing Ange was a huge mistake.

If (1) is true then why would (2) matter, beyond the purely emotional aspect?

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profspur's avatar

Possibly what's making it seem bizarre to you is that you've misrepresented my view on (1), inventing a contradiction that isn't in the thing you're responding to.

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Clumpus's avatar

To quote you, “And systematically outperforming our resources is impossible, a non-strategy. It will only ever be a roll of the dice or a strategic compromise, like Conte without Europe or Ange deprioritizing the league.”

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profspur's avatar

... and to continue quoting me in full with the post immediately under the one you're quoting:

"Just to clarify, I don't mean it's impossible for anyone to over- or under-perform resources, but that specifically a club at Spurs' level of resources and expectations has very small margins for improvement, essentially from top-4ish to top 1-2, and that requires concomitant resource boost."

You'll note that even in the partial quote you offered--in your effort to mislead and manipulate--I use the word 'our'--'our resources'--not referring to managers and clubs in general. The rationale for that specification is in the part you left out.

We're intellectually honest here.

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Clumpus's avatar

I guess I’m unsure of what you’re saying in the footnote.

As I understand what you're saying, for a club to go from top four-ish to top one-two “requires a concomitant resource boost.” To state it in reverse, without a resource boost, a club with a top four wage bill cannot compete for the top two positions.

So perhaps you can clarify: is it impossible for a club with the 4th most resources to contend for titles or… is it just hard?

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Jen's avatar

I also found this a bit confusing fwiw.

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Brent's avatar

While I agree the degree to which he overperforms has a ceiling, I do think we'll overperform. I'm drunkenly overoptimistic right now, and I wouldn't want it any other way.

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